This is my final video, taking into account the feedback that I received and with some other minor tweaks.
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Monday, 30 May 2011
Sunday, 29 May 2011
Feedback II
Feedback from a non programmer and my responses:
"I also like the b&w better.
One question: why do you say the loop finishes? In my point of view (a non-programmer one, I admit), he has not got his keys and therefore he should keep looking for them. I mean, what is the "while loop" here? while he does not have the keys, he looks for them? He has not got the keys at the end, so he should continue to look for them, chasing the guy in the car. If the loop is while not knowing where the keys are, then it would be different, but I think the loop is about not having them, since he was going to go out and he needed them. It would be different if he were going to bed and then noticed the keys weren't there."
I made the end to hopefully give it a bit of humour and a more interesting one than him just finding the keys. So I see what your saying in the fact that he doesn't actually have the keys himself but he knows where they are, so you aren't going to keep on looking for them as you know you aren't going to find them.
"As I understood it, the process would be like this:
Getting ready
IF clothes not on THEN put on
IF shoes not laced THEN lace up
IF (etc)
Getting the keys
IF keys not in place THEN look for them
WHILE keys not found = [what? Look everywhere? Look in house? Check not left somewhere else?...]
Going out"
The getting ready isn't really part of the loop, it's there to show the viewer that he's getting ready to go out and to set the scene but I see what you are getting at, but it does seem like you are kind of understanding what a while loop is which is a success as this is the whole point of the film.
"I also like the b&w better.
One question: why do you say the loop finishes? In my point of view (a non-programmer one, I admit), he has not got his keys and therefore he should keep looking for them. I mean, what is the "while loop" here? while he does not have the keys, he looks for them? He has not got the keys at the end, so he should continue to look for them, chasing the guy in the car. If the loop is while not knowing where the keys are, then it would be different, but I think the loop is about not having them, since he was going to go out and he needed them. It would be different if he were going to bed and then noticed the keys weren't there."
I made the end to hopefully give it a bit of humour and a more interesting one than him just finding the keys. So I see what your saying in the fact that he doesn't actually have the keys himself but he knows where they are, so you aren't going to keep on looking for them as you know you aren't going to find them.
"As I understood it, the process would be like this:
Getting ready
IF clothes not on THEN put on
IF shoes not laced THEN lace up
IF (etc)
Getting the keys
IF keys not in place THEN look for them
WHILE keys not found = [what? Look everywhere? Look in house? Check not left somewhere else?...]
Going out"
The getting ready isn't really part of the loop, it's there to show the viewer that he's getting ready to go out and to set the scene but I see what you are getting at, but it does seem like you are kind of understanding what a while loop is which is a success as this is the whole point of the film.
Feedback
I have received some feedback about the two short films.
The general consensus is that the black and white one is much better than the colour one.
From someone who knows about programming:
"Although WHILE in English expresses a continuous state, in programming it represents a repeated set of actions. That is, one asks the question: is it true that I don't have my keys? If it is true, we carry out the key search routine. Then we ask the question again. So, I wonder if there is some way of conveying the repeated nature of the task, a series of short repeated searches rather than making it look like one long search activity?"
I thought that this was a good idea and would give a better sense of the loop, but it makes the film a bit boring and unvaried. In my film, I do have a lot of similar scenes, he's either looking through drawers or along the top of benches, I have tried for the sake of the film to vary the shots each time that he searches one of these places, so it is repetitive searching similar places but it's not exactly the same thing multiple times.
"Finally, I was a bit puzzled as he seemed to already know where the keys were at the start -- weren't they hanging up?"
The ones hanging up were the house keys, he was looking for his car keys. I tried to make the sign with the little logos obvious, but clearly not well enough (although why he's leaving without his house keys is a bit of an error on my part...). I will try to make this more obvious.
"Also, I like the B&W better than the colour. Or maybe you could change to colour when the loop finishes? (Or should that be the other way round???) "
I love this idea, like you say it gives a sense of completion when the loop is finished. Definitely going to try and implement this in the final version.
The general consensus is that the black and white one is much better than the colour one.
From someone who knows about programming:
"Although WHILE in English expresses a continuous state, in programming it represents a repeated set of actions. That is, one asks the question: is it true that I don't have my keys? If it is true, we carry out the key search routine. Then we ask the question again. So, I wonder if there is some way of conveying the repeated nature of the task, a series of short repeated searches rather than making it look like one long search activity?"
I thought that this was a good idea and would give a better sense of the loop, but it makes the film a bit boring and unvaried. In my film, I do have a lot of similar scenes, he's either looking through drawers or along the top of benches, I have tried for the sake of the film to vary the shots each time that he searches one of these places, so it is repetitive searching similar places but it's not exactly the same thing multiple times.
"Finally, I was a bit puzzled as he seemed to already know where the keys were at the start -- weren't they hanging up?"
The ones hanging up were the house keys, he was looking for his car keys. I tried to make the sign with the little logos obvious, but clearly not well enough (although why he's leaving without his house keys is a bit of an error on my part...). I will try to make this more obvious.
"Also, I like the B&W better than the colour. Or maybe you could change to colour when the loop finishes? (Or should that be the other way round???) "
I love this idea, like you say it gives a sense of completion when the loop is finished. Definitely going to try and implement this in the final version.
Saturday, 28 May 2011
Here is another attempt at using the 'Times' video technique of multiple frames. This time I tried to lose the negative space because before there was so much of it that it over powered the visuals and emphasis on the story was lost. I think that it looks much sleeker but it's very difficult to do and time the clips together.
Also it isn't quite how a computer works, a computer doesn't do the same thing at multiple times which I find that this video is suggesting. So although it looks much more interesting and is quite different I don't think that it works in this scenario unfortunately.
Also it isn't quite how a computer works, a computer doesn't do the same thing at multiple times which I find that this video is suggesting. So although it looks much more interesting and is quite different I don't think that it works in this scenario unfortunately.
Friday, 27 May 2011
First version minor colour edit
Here is another version of my last post but this time with a bit of colour to see what I like more.
I have to say that I like the black and white version better.
I have to say that I like the black and white version better.
First version
This is my first attempt at editing all of my clips together into one cohesive narrative of someone searching for their keys.
Tuesday, 24 May 2011
Untitled 8 Rough Mix by J.K. Wiechert
I found some music which I think will suit perfectly, the track gives a feeling of urgency and worry that the main character was feeling as you lose your keys thanks to it being in the minor key. The heartbeat repeating sound so you empathise with the character as his heartbeats gets louder and louder and it repeats itself as that is the nature of a while loop.
Although the loop itself is resolved at the end, the actual dilemma of losing his keys hasn't been resolved and I have had it suggested that I finish the music on a happy note but I don't think that having some sort of cadence or a happier tone would suit the film and the result.
I found some music which I think will suit perfectly, the track gives a feeling of urgency and worry that the main character was feeling as you lose your keys thanks to it being in the minor key. The heartbeat repeating sound so you empathise with the character as his heartbeats gets louder and louder and it repeats itself as that is the nature of a while loop.
Although the loop itself is resolved at the end, the actual dilemma of losing his keys hasn't been resolved and I have had it suggested that I finish the music on a happy note but I don't think that having some sort of cadence or a happier tone would suit the film and the result.
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